Ubuntu 5.10 - Comments
Thursday 27th October 2005
Categories: Reviews, GNU/Linux, FLOSS
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2. Submitted by LarsBj, Friday 28th October 2005
Nice (well Ok) short review. I agree with all your points except one, which I have seen almost every other reviewer of Ubuntu get wrong (in my opinion) as well: The issue of being root or not.
Now, I'll admit that Ubuntu's default arrangement where this is concerned might be unusual, but only by comparison to the norm in other distributions. I think they have made a wise choice, taking the whole "root thing issue" out of the picture for new Linux users, which IMO is a good thing - it lowers the barrier. Now, as a somewhat experienced Linux user, I actually *also* find this arrangement a good thing, for shere convenience.
Here's the point you (and most others) are getting wrong: The first user does NOT (repeat NOT) run with root privileges! And therefor does NOT present a security risk.
The arrangement is such, that whenever the first user needs to do something "dangerous" like installing a package, which requires root privileges, they are PROMPTED for their own password, and from then on are carrying out their task with SUDO - root privileges. Only THEN do they have root privileges, and this arrangement is *no different* (IMO) from having to log on as root and do your thing, not from a security standpoint, but what it DOES allow, is for the user to have to deal with one less password, and one less concept (the root thing), which IMO is a *good* thing.
There you have it. I'm sure wiser people than me will take this apart, but I think it's an important point, and one that I continually see people cite to the detriment of Ubuntu, which I think is just plainly unfair. So: Well done Ubuntu! I think you got this one right as well (apart from producing a fantastic distro that Just Works(TM))
Sorry for the lengthy comment :-)
3. Submitted by Anonymous, Friday 28th October 2005
What you say about root privileges is totally incorrect.
What actually happens is that the 1st user is simply added to the group which is able to run sudo. Yes, that group is called 'admin' but it doesn't confer any special/root privileges on the user - bar the ability to run 'sudo'
4. Submitted by Anonymous, Friday 28th October 2005
I am ok with ubunto 5.10. You mention that root password can be set in the command line. Would you tell me how to do that. I would like to set one because sometimes I want to change or delete some files and I get "you are not the owner of this file(s)".
5. Submitted by Mike, free-bees.co.uk, Friday 28th October 2005
In response to #4:
Simple - when in a terminal, simply type
sudo passwd root
. You will then be prompted for your password, and then you can enter a new root password. Alternatively, you can type sudo before a command, and that command will be executed as though you were the root user.
1. Submitted by Russ, Friday 28th October 2005